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Cyclon36
09-20-2004, 11:38 AM
I wanted to make sure I'm set for the track and wanted to get a some suggestions of things to do to my S to get it ready. I don't mean supercharger or anything, but small stuff.

I know I want to change my brake fluid to a high temp one. Any suggestions on that (what kind/if I can do this myself or shop job?)? Also, My tires are still good but nearing the end. I thought about just running the track then getting new tires after, or should I go ahead and buy new tires for the track. I'm not exactly sure how much rubber a track day will eat. I will also probably bleed the clutch fluid as Domenick suggested. Any other small maintenance things I should consider? Thanks.

s2kjones
09-20-2004, 11:54 AM
You can change the brake fluid yourself. You will need a bleed kit though. It's a good idea to have fresh transmission, rear differential, and motor oil for a track day. It's not a bad idea to get your allignment checked too. Alan Cox can do all those things for you, at a great price.

Check your brake pads too. You may want to bring a back up set, just in case.

s2kjones
09-20-2004, 11:58 AM
...oh, and get a supercharger :D

Cyclon36
09-20-2004, 12:04 PM
Thanks for the tips David. I guess I'll just schedule a fluid day at Alan Cox. Might as well get them to do my brakes to since it will be there.

I could probably do it all myself if I won that swedish made pe...I mean fluid exchange pump they gave away at the Dragon.:D

Cyclon36
10-09-2004, 12:35 PM
I just rolled out of Alan Cox with my freshly lubed and serviced S. I had high temp brake fluid put in, LE diff fluid, and I bled the clutch as per recommendation from Domenick. I'm ready to go now. I probably gained about 25-30hp to the rear by doing this. :D

WebGod
10-10-2004, 03:34 PM
I haven't changed my oil or gotten new tires. I'm ready too. :D

s2kjones
10-10-2004, 04:56 PM
I haven't changed my oil or gotten new tires. I'm ready too. :D
Yep, and my car still is a POS. so I am ready too :goodjob:

WebGod
10-10-2004, 05:16 PM
Yep, and my car still is a POS. so I am ready too :goodjob:Nice! :goodjob:

s2kjones
10-10-2004, 10:07 PM
Ready to ghost ride it into a tree :goodjob:

Cyclon36
10-11-2004, 11:17 AM
BTW, while I was up there, I got a chance to watch the guys work on Todd's engine. The cover was off and I got to see all the neat cam work and lifters and so forth. I also got to see what and S looks like without an engine. I think if I had money to waste, I'd try putting in a V6 with turbo.

s2kjones
10-11-2004, 11:25 AM
BTW, while I was up there, I got a chance to watch the guys work on Todd's engine. The cover was off and I got to see all the neat cam work and lifters and so forth. I also got to see what and S looks like without an engine. I think if I had money to waste, I'd try putting in a V6 with turbo.
I've been thinking about an SR20DET. It would fit, and it would be badass

Cyclon36
10-11-2004, 11:28 AM
I've been thinking about an SR20DET. It would fit, and it would be badass
Look, we're tired of your BS. Just sell the friggin car and get your GTO, Pontiac boy! We know that's what you really want to do. :D

s2kjones
10-11-2004, 11:48 AM
Look, we're tired of your BS. Just sell the friggin car and get your GTO, Pontiac boy! We know that's what you really want to do. :D
HAHAHAHA!!!

s2kjones
10-11-2004, 11:50 AM
The SR20DET could be done though. You would have to run a nissan transmission. I don't know if you could use the same diff.

Cyclon36
10-11-2004, 12:23 PM
I'd like to stick in a Supra's twin turbo. Not sure about fitment though.

s2kjones
10-11-2004, 12:35 PM
I'd like to stick in a Supra's twin turbo. Not sure about fitment though.
an inline 6 cylinder wouldn't fit real easy. You'd be better off trying to put a small block v8 in there

S2KOOL
10-12-2004, 09:17 AM
No matter what upgraded engine you put in, your problem is always going to be getting the HP to the rear wheels. The existing transmission and differential just can't take the beating they would get from the increased HP and torque. You would need to replace the entire drivetrain. $$$$$

But it would be a very fast, straight-line car.:goodjob: I assume all of the additional weight up front would throw off the balance and lessen the handling capabilities.

Cyclon36
10-12-2004, 10:55 AM
No matter what upgraded engine you put in, your problem is always going to be getting the HP to the rear wheels. The existing transmission and differential just can't take the beating they would get from the increased HP and torque. You would need to replace the entire drivetrain. $$$$$

But it would be a very fast, straight-line car.:goodjob: I assume all of the additional weight up front would throw off the balance and lessen the handling capabilities.
You're getting too technical here John. None of us actually plan on wasting money on an engine swap. What you're suppose to say is this:

"Yeah man! I'd stick a crate V8 in there with blower through the hood. That would be awesome!! Plus cut the exhausts so they come up through the hood too and add flame throwers. That might make it too heavy in front, but I'd just put four 12's in the back to make up for it!"

s2kjones
10-12-2004, 11:46 AM
You're getting too technical here John. None of us actually plan on wasting money on an engine swap. What you're suppose to say is this:

"Yeah man! I'd stick a crate V8 in there with blower through the hood. That would be awesome!! Plus cut the exhausts so they come up through the hood too and add flame throwers. That might make it too heavy in front, but I'd just put four 12's in the back to make up for it!"
I'm thinking about a gas turbine engine... great power to weight ratio:D

Cyclon36
10-12-2004, 11:47 AM
I'm thinking about a gas turbine engine... great power to weight ratio:D
You know, if I had about 200k to blow, you better believe there would be two turbine jets that pop out the rear fenders when I flip a switch.

s2kjones
10-12-2004, 11:50 AM
You know, if I had about 200k to blow, you better believe there would be two turbine jets that pop out the rear fenders when I flip a switch.
Hell yeah!! That's what i'm talking about:goodjob:

Aaron
10-12-2004, 12:15 PM
sr20det wouldn't mess up the f/r weight ratio to bad, and what an in expensive torque monster....
or just get a new westfield csr

or, i can hook you up with a cheap pratt & whitney if you want to go turbine

s2kjones
10-12-2004, 12:48 PM
sr20det wouldn't mess up the f/r weight ratio to bad, and what an in expensive torque monster....
or just get a new westfield csr

or, i can hook you up with a cheap pratt & whitney if you want to go turbine
ok, what's a westfield csr?

Aaron
10-12-2004, 12:55 PM
scratch that -- caterham csr -- their newest "Lotus 7" -- 3.5 to 60, 1800 lbs, 1+ on the skidpad, makes an Elise look porky -- similar in price to our S....

westfield is a competitor

Cyclon36
10-12-2004, 01:19 PM
scratch that -- caterham csr -- their newest "Lotus 7" -- 3.5 to 60, 1800 lbs, 1+ on the skidpad, makes an Elise look porky -- similar in price to our S....

westfield is a competitor
Yeah, but the catemeran looks like it was designed in the 40's. It's pretty much a tube chassis with some sheet metal and an engine. I think they had one post the fastest 0-60 time for a street legal car. It had two 1000cc motorcycle engines in it.

Aaron
10-12-2004, 01:54 PM
Yeah, but the catemeran looks like it was designed in the 40's. It's pretty much a tube chassis with some sheet metal and an engine. I think they had one post the fastest 0-60 time for a street legal car. It had two 1000cc motorcycle engines in it. but it wasn't a caterham.
2.9 seconds or something. Lee posted it up earlier......
they look cool in person

mistervlus
10-12-2004, 02:00 PM
but it wasn't a caterham.
2.9 seconds or something. Lee posted it up earlier......
they look cool in person
Tiger Racing Z100

http://www.tigerracing.com/cars/tiger-z100-main.php

mistervlus
10-12-2004, 02:08 PM
Yeah, but the catemeran looks like it was designed in the 40's. It's pretty much a tube chassis with some sheet metal and an engine.
This doesn't look like it was designed in the 40's?

http://catamaransailing.com/images/tobago35ext.jpg

This does though.

http://www.caterham.co.uk/images/showroom/detail/slr_03.jpg


For the money I think you'd be hard pressed to find a car with the same performance and handling. Of course there are some drawbacks, like even a mini will seem like an SUV when it's next to you, but get it out on the track and I'll be :D

Aaron
10-12-2004, 02:15 PM
http://www.caterham.co.uk/images/showroom/detail/slr_03.jpg


For the money I think you'd be hard pressed to find a car with the same performance and handling. Of course there are some drawbacks, like even a mini will seem like an SUV when it's next to you, but get it out on the track and I'll be :D http://www.hightach.com/vb/images/smilies/werd.gif

Aaron
10-12-2004, 02:15 PM
did you see the new CSR, Lee? Cosworth engines, mmmmmmm

s2kjones
10-12-2004, 02:16 PM
This doesn't look like it was designed in the 40's?

http://catamaransailing.com/images/tobago35ext.jpg

This does though.

http://www.caterham.co.uk/images/showroom/detail/slr_03.jpg


For the money I think you'd be hard pressed to find a car with the same performance and handling. Of course there are some drawbacks, like even a mini will seem like an SUV when it's next to you, but get it out on the track and I'll be :D



:goodjob: I like it...the car that is

mistervlus
10-12-2004, 02:23 PM
did you see the new CSR, Lee? Cosworth engines, mmmmmmmYep. Putting the Cossie engine in there is good and bad. Good becuase the power to weight ratio is awesome. Bad because Ford are selling cossie so there's a slight risk that they may be discontinued.

The Caterham is so expensive over here, $22k - $32k without engine!! that it's just silly. I'd love to get one as a track car but not at that money.

I hear that the Westfield will be coming here shortly once they've worked out the deal with the importer. It would be interesting to see the $$ of their cars.

http://www.westfield-sportscars.co.uk/gfx/2000sport1.jpghttp://www.westfield-sportscars.co.uk/gfx/xtr4pic.jpg

mistervlus
10-12-2004, 02:30 PM
:goodjob: I like it...the car that is

R500
1.8 litre 230bhp K-Series power unit
13" Lightweight aluminium wheels with Avon CR500 tyres
Carbon pack including nose, wings and wing protectors
Magnesium upgrade pack including sump, bell housing and oil tower
Stack instrumentation
Limited slip differential
Carbon nose and wings


R500: 1.8 litre XPower K Series.
16 valve DOHC
Max Power: 230 bhp @ 8600 rpm
Max torque: 155 lbsft @ 7200 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.4 secs
Max speed:150 mph


Can't get it kit form and it costs a princely £36,450 & for that amount of money you can get one of these puppies:

http://www.radicalsouth.com/Gallery%20Images/Corporate%20Images/sr4_in_wet.jpg

WebGod
10-12-2004, 03:05 PM
http://www.caterham.co.uk/images/showroom/detail/slr_03.jpg
This car is badass on PGR2